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	<title>Comments on: Dedicated lane for bikes on the Burrard Bridge (trial)</title>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Karen - Agreed, there should be NO clash of transportation models. It should be seen as happily co-existing, and finding ways for more sustainable transportation.

@ Brigitte - I think I concur with your view. It seems to me too that it&#039;s a trial and that&#039;s why there&#039;s very little conversation. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karen &#8211; Agreed, there should be NO clash of transportation models. It should be seen as happily co-existing, and finding ways for more sustainable transportation.</p>
<p>@ Brigitte &#8211; I think I concur with your view. It seems to me too that it&#8217;s a trial and that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s very little conversation. </p>
<p>Thanks for commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Brigitte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigitte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Raul - my understanding is that the primary goal, and almost the only goal from the City&#039;s point of view, is to increase the safety of the bridge, and reduce liability.

The regular arrangement (cyclists and pedestrians sharing both sidewalks) is very dangerous, has sent a number of cyclists to the hospital in just the last few months, and has already cost the city a lot of money in settlement of a very bad accident that happened a few years back. It is an enormous liability to the city. It was striking that no parent in their good mind cycled over it with their kids (in tow or on their own bikes). The risk of being thrown in traffic is just too big, even for the safest and most skilled of cyclists. 

I have seen a number of kids cycling over the bridge already since the trial started. It also does feel immensely safer, both from a pedestrian&#039;s and from a cyclist&#039;s point of view. 

The lane trial is just a trial. After the Olympics the City has to undertake massive renovation of the bridge to bring it up to safety standards (and we&#039;re not even talking about cyclists and pedestrians here). Interesting conversations will have to happen then as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raul &#8211; my understanding is that the primary goal, and almost the only goal from the City&#8217;s point of view, is to increase the safety of the bridge, and reduce liability.</p>
<p>The regular arrangement (cyclists and pedestrians sharing both sidewalks) is very dangerous, has sent a number of cyclists to the hospital in just the last few months, and has already cost the city a lot of money in settlement of a very bad accident that happened a few years back. It is an enormous liability to the city. It was striking that no parent in their good mind cycled over it with their kids (in tow or on their own bikes). The risk of being thrown in traffic is just too big, even for the safest and most skilled of cyclists. </p>
<p>I have seen a number of kids cycling over the bridge already since the trial started. It also does feel immensely safer, both from a pedestrian&#8217;s and from a cyclist&#8217;s point of view. </p>
<p>The lane trial is just a trial. After the Olympics the City has to undertake massive renovation of the bridge to bring it up to safety standards (and we&#8217;re not even talking about cyclists and pedestrians here). Interesting conversations will have to happen then as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Quinn Fung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Quinn Fung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raul, you expressed some dismay on Twitter that there were not more responses on this post. I think the reason for this may be that we as citizens in Vancouver have been so schooled by the media to see this as a clash of transportation modes, pitting cars against bikes and pedestrians, or an ideological battle, as that of sustainability advocates versus status-quo consumption advocates (for lack of a better, more descriptive phrase) that everyone is flocking to Twitter, for its emotional gratification. The way this has been framed, there&#039;s no sense of rapid iteration or collaboration to make our shared resource, the bridge, work safer and better for EVERYBODY - there&#039;s only a sense that out of 16 lanes going into downtown, one has been taken away from a group that feels entitled to it - despite the fact that construction often robs them of at least that many lanes on a regular basis anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raul, you expressed some dismay on Twitter that there were not more responses on this post. I think the reason for this may be that we as citizens in Vancouver have been so schooled by the media to see this as a clash of transportation modes, pitting cars against bikes and pedestrians, or an ideological battle, as that of sustainability advocates versus status-quo consumption advocates (for lack of a better, more descriptive phrase) that everyone is flocking to Twitter, for its emotional gratification. The way this has been framed, there&#8217;s no sense of rapid iteration or collaboration to make our shared resource, the bridge, work safer and better for EVERYBODY &#8211; there&#8217;s only a sense that out of 16 lanes going into downtown, one has been taken away from a group that feels entitled to it &#8211; despite the fact that construction often robs them of at least that many lanes on a regular basis anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s Up Wednesdays: Bike Lanes, Hiking Trails, and UPS Failures &#171; Beyond the Rhetoric</title>
		<link>http://hummingbird604.com/2009/07/13/dedicated-lane-for-bikes-on-the-burrard-bridge-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-4939</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s Up Wednesdays: Bike Lanes, Hiking Trails, and UPS Failures &#171; Beyond the Rhetoric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a relatively green city. We recycle. We drink out of reusable mugs. We&#8217;re also considering a dedicated bike lane on the Burrard Bridge. This would take away one of the traffic lanes used for cars and other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a relatively green city. We recycle. We drink out of reusable mugs. We&#8217;re also considering a dedicated bike lane on the Burrard Bridge. This would take away one of the traffic lanes used for cars and other [...]</p>
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